Friday, February 01, 2013

Who Painted This #14

There's a couple of quick and a slow way to work out who painted this and all the rest of the details which I want to know (which are slightly different this week).   It also has a rather good back story which I shall tell you about next week - unless you tell me first!

Who painted this? #14
How to participate in "Who painted this? #14"

What I want to know this week


It's slightly different this week due to age and provenance - as indicated below
  • Title of the artworknot applicable this week
  • Name of the artist who created this artworkwho the painting is attributed to (either spelling will do)
  • Date it was createdthe century it was produced in (the more accurate the better)
  • Media useddoesn't count - but take a guess
  • Where it lives now: I'll take either of two possible answers
  • Which ruler the painter worked for:
  • The significance of this painting
  • and as usual - how you found this out:
ONLY POST ON THIS BLOG what you think is the answer.

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In short:
  • use your brains not image software to find the answer (ie do NOT look for similar images using software)
  • search using words only on a database of images
  • leave your answer as a comment on this blog
  • if correct it will not be published until the next post - which provides the answer
  • if wrong it will be published
  • do NOT leave the answer on Facebook!
  • the winner - who gets a mention and a link on/from this blog - is the first person to give me a completely correct answer for ALL the things I want to know
Who Painted This #13 - The Answer

Still life: apples and jar by SJ Peploe
Collection: Art Gallery of New South Wales

  • Title of the artwork: Still life: apples and jar
  • Name of the artist who created this artworkSamuel John Peploe (Scotland 1871–1935)
  • Date it was created: circa 1912-circa 1916 (Not signed. Not dated.)
  • Media used: oil on canvas, 51.0 x 55.8cm stretcher; 69.5 x 74.5 x 7.7cm frame
  • Where it lives now: Art Gallery of New South Wales
Below are some edited highlights of what the Art Gallery of New South Wales has to say about Peploe and this painting.
Samuel Peploe is typical of the many British artists who succumbed to the magnetism of Cezanne in the early part of the twentieth century. One of the so-called Scottish colourists, a loosely allied quartet of post-impressionist painters, he made a decisive visit to France before the war, during which time this well-constructed still life was completed. Generous in its dispersal of pigment, it is nonetheless an example of modernist 'belle maniere' - refined and beautiful painting. The surface appearance of this work derives from a system of square-brushing that links Peploe, via Cezanne, back to artists of the nineteenth-century Glasgow School like John Lavery. AGNSW Handbook, 1999.
So this is a Cezanne influenced still life painting by Scottish Colourist painter SJ Peploe (1871–1935)

There's an exhibition about SJ Peploe currently on display at the National Galleries of Scotland
The Scottish Colourist Series: SJ Peploe3rd November 2012 − 23rd June 2013Modern Two (Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art) | £7 (£5)
Plus you can see a lot more paintings by Peploe which are in public ownership at the BBC Your Paintings website - Samuel John Peploe

I'm currently working on a website providing links to more information about Peploe and where you can see his paintings.  I'll post a link to this blog post later today.

[UPDATE: This is my NEW website About Samuel John Peploe - Scottish Colourist Painter]

The correct answers

I'm seeing improvement in terms of who has aspired to answer in the past but is now answering AND getting the right answer.  This is why I ask you to say how you found the painting - as this shares this information with others who may not have thought of this approach.

The first person to get a totally correct answer is - for the third week running - Alyson Champ (The Chronicle of Wasted Time) who is a collage artist, small-scale farmer and a classical musician who lives near Montreal, Quebec.

She was closely followed by Speedy Sue Smith of Cambridgeshire.

Others who got the correct answer are:
Bernard Victor had the fastest response but didn't quite get the answer right


As always there were a huge variety of ways in which people got to the right answer!



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16 comments:

  1. Well, this is the first painting where I've not had a clue, but since you posted at around the right time thought I aughta have a go. Unfortunately a google search on images for Dodo and Parrot shows the painting (in reverse on a blog page reserved for obscure things). When I tried to look it up on wikipedia, it wanted to direct me to doom paintings!
    Anyway, artist is thought to be Ustad Mansur and created around 1610 (the wikipedia for Dodo's shows the same painting, but dates it 1625). Media looks water based, with some of the opacity I would expect from gouache although it may be egg tempera. It appears to be in the Hermitage although I can find no record of it on their webpage. The significance is it is a painting of a live Dodo and it was painted for Salim Nuruddin Jahangir, 4th mughal emperor. He may also have been the first painter to paint a Dodo.

    Today I have started a 28 days project over at my blog (glasgow painter) where I'll be talking lots of nonsense but may well mention this page at some point if that's OK with you!)

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  2. I found this by Googling "Dodo duck parrot painting"! The Wikipedia entry for Dodo gave me the information.

    It is attributed to the Mughal court painter to Jehangir, Ustad Mansur, or one of his contemporaries, painted around 1610 - 1625. Jehangir liked to collect specimens from the natural world and a dodo was brought to his court via Goa.

    It is possibly the first painting of a dodo and the most accurate from a living specimen and was rediscovered in the Hermitage in St Petersburg, which is where I assume it still is.

    A guess at the medium - watercolour with some sort of body colour?


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  3. I'm finding two versions of this painting, one the mirror image of the other. You can see both in the thumbnails in the file history here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DodoMansur.jpg

    Name of the artist who created this artwork: Ustad Mansur. Also known as Nadir-ul-Asar "Wonder of the age". A fine title!
    Date it was created: sometime close to 1610-1625
    Media used: water based paint on paper. Gold leaf would not be unexpected.
    Where it lives now: "Instituut voor Oosterse studies, Sint Petersburg" according to http://www.natuurinformatie.nl/nnm.dossiers/natuurdatabase.nl/i005387.html

    Which ruler the painter worked for: Jahangir

    The significance of this painting: One of very few depictions of a dodo drawn from life. Probably has fairly accurate coloring - something not often attributed to ink drawings.

    and as usual - how you found this out:
    google image search for "dodo extinct bird carpet" yielded this article:
    http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/mughal/
    further searching on the name "Jahangir" gave me the name of the painter, "Ustad Mansur."

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  4. Title of the artwork: not applicable this week
    Name of the artist who created this artwork: who the painting is attributed to (either spelling will do) Ustad Mansur
    Date it was created: the century it was produced in (the more accurate the better) 1625
    Media used: doesn't count - but take a guess....Egg Tempera?
    Where it lives now: The Hermitage, St Petersburg
    Which ruler the painter worked for: Mughal (Jahangir)
    The significance of this painting: It is thought to be one of the most accurate painting's of a Dodo in existence. The artist was the court artist and had access to the the menagerie of the Mughal emperor and painted it from life. It is thought that most of Dodo's painted were dead, so the significance is that the artist captured an alive bird.
    and as usual - how you found this out: I did some Dodo paintings whilst as a student and remember this image clearly from my sketchbook of research I undertook!


    Thanks
    Ka Gray
    https://twitter.com/KaGrayArtist

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  5. I found this straight away so I imagine everyone else has too. I did a search on Dodo paintings, found the painting which led me to a blog which then led me to the Wikipedia page.
    The artist is thought to be Ustad Masur court artist of Jehangir.
    c 1625, I think it is in The Hermitage in St Petersburg.
    It is thought to be the first accurate painting of a live Dodo.

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  6. I'm probably late with this but....

    Ustad Mansur is the artist
    painted circa 1625
    some kind of opaque water media?
    It currently resides in the Hermitage in St. Petersburg, Russia
    It was painted for Jahangir
    Significant in that it is possibly the first known painting of a dodo- now extinct- which was brought to the court of Jahangir via Portugeuse Goa.
    Found by Googling "mughal bird paintings" and scrolled though the images until I found it in Wikipedia.

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  7. Hello, The painting this week was done in the early 17th century. Attributed to Ustad Mansur a court artist under Mughal emperor Jahangir. It looks to be painted as part of a book with maybe a type of tempura or gouache. The reference I found says it is now in the Hermitage, St. Petersburg. I recognized the center bird as a Dodo bird and did my first search on Google with the phrase "Painting of Dodo birds" I found the image in the results. That took me to the Wikipedia site for Ustad Mansur the name of the painter. Links from there took me to many sites for Indian art and the many styles and eras in Indian art. I kept looking as I wasn't sure that the painting was located in the Hermitage but several sites noted it.

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  8. Oh, I forgot to add the significance of this painting in my first comment. Mansur's painting is thought to be the only accurate depiction of the dodo bird drawn from a living specimen

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  9. Ruth Bosveld
    ruthbosveld@gmail.com
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/58422184@N04/


    Title: Not relevant

    Artist: Ustad Mansur

    Date: 1610 according to Wikipedia

    Medium: Something different? Maybe similar to egg tempera?

    Where it lives now: Hermitage in St. Petersburg

    Which ruler the painter worked for: Jahangir

    The significance of the painting: He was the first artist to paint both the Siberian Crane and possibly the Dodo

    How I found it: Google search on "painting dodo two borders birds" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustad_Mansur - second page - the first one was about dodos, but it had the right image without both borders

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  10. Hello Katherine. It's a painting of a Dodo, blue crowned hanging parrot, tragopan pheasant and sandgrouse by the 17th century Indian artist Ustad Mansur.
    Painted in the early 1600's (?1610)
    Probably a water based medium -- it's a minature.
    In the Indian Museum, Kolkata.
    Jahangir was the ruler.
    It's thought to be the first and probably the most accurate painting of a Dodo as it was painted from life. It's known that a live Dodo was brought to Jahangir's court via Goa.
    I found it out by recognising two of the birds and knowing that it was by an Indian painter, used those facts to search for it on Google.
    David Hawson.
    davidhawson.com

    PS. I really enjoy not only your blog (not sure how you find the time) and because of it I've just submitted a couple of paintings to the Royal Institute of Painters in Watercolour.

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  11. Artist: Ustad Mansur
    Date: 1610 or 1625, dependes on the author
    Media: oil?
    Where it is: Hermitage, St. Petersburg. It was rediscovered in the collection of the Institute of Oriental studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Ruler: Jahangir
    Significance: Probably the most accurate painting of a DoDo, and the only accurate depiction of the bird drawn from a living specimen, that is of great contibution to science, as the bird is extinct since 1681
    I founded it using google and the words dodo pinting

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  12. Katherine,
    Artist’s name: Attributed to Ustad Mansur. Unsigned.
    Date created: c1610
    Media: Guess tempera
    Location: Hermitage St. Petersburg
    Painted for: Jehangir.
    Significance: Reputedly pained at Jehingir’s palace from life as two live Dodo’s were presented to the ruler.
    I searched using Yahoo for images of a Dodo. This failed so I tried again searching for Dodo painting. I found the name of the artist from Shelly Davies website and then I got the remaining details from Wiki Images.

    Thanks for the challenge.

    Stan

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  13. Ustad Mansur, around 1625, for Jahangir, watercolor or gouache now in the Hermitage Museum in S. Petersburg.

    I felt I recognized the subject and style of Mansur, whom I love, and just typed Birds, Mansur, Mughal into Google. Got the date and present location from a blog. I guess I should double-check but I was so excited to see this amazing dodo painting, and am commenting right away!
    Alison Frank
    alison.frank@tin.it

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  14. Artist: Ustad Mansur ( attrib)
    Date: c. 1610
    Medium: Gouache
    Location: Hermitage museum, Leningrad
    Painter worked for: Jahangir (Mughal emperor 1605-1627)
    Significance: Probably the first painting by an Indian artist of the dodo.
    How I researched it:
    1. Recognised the dodo
    2. Recognised the style as Indian
    3. Google search for " Indian dodo painting" led straight to answer!

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  15. artist attributed to Ustad Mansur
    painted ca 1625
    Now at Institute of Oriental Studies St Petersburg
    Ruler artist worked for Jahangir ( Mughal Emporer)
    The painting is significant as it is the best representation of a extinct dodo made form a live specimen.
    It was discovered by Dr Ivanov who presented a paper about it and caused a stir at an ornithological congress in 1958.
    I googled dodo painting under images and found Mansud's mirror image version on www.exoticindianar.com
    Googling dodo painting ustad mansur under web revealed both images, from there followed link to http://www.natuurinformatie.nl
    You are certainly broadening my art knowledge base Katherine.

    Probably done on paper prepared with a ground of a white pigment mixed with a plant gum. Painted with pigments mixed with water and gum something like watercolour gouache or tempera.

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  16. artists- Ustad Mansu
    Date- c1625
    Media used: watercolour over a drawing. Drawing was made using charcoal or ink
    Where it lives now:Institute of Oriental studies, st Peterburg
    Which ruler the painter worked for:Jahangir
    The significance of this painting:most accurate depiction of a dodo that became extinct shortly afterwards
    how I found it - typed in Dodo with other exotic birds 17c and then followed through with several different articles. Most difficult part was finding the medium used as although I knew it was probably watercolour, I wanted to make sure.

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